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I'm back from my trip. Was interesting seeing my sister's graduation from her Bachelor of Arts degree. I myself should probably prepare for my postgraduate soon as I didn't get into one earlier in the year. Time will tell how things turn out.
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Tarturus

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Australia
I am Tartarus. Called so after the lowest of the three levels of the underworld of ancient Greek mythology.

I was born in Norway, but have lived in Australia most of my life.
I like to draw and write stuff for a hobby, especially sci-fi pics and stories.
A number of my pics and stories contain mythological references, as I am fascinated by ancient mythology and folklore.

I have a strong fascination for mysteries and odd things. I am also fascinated by scientific and historical topics, both conventional and controversial.

I do not adhere to any belief system whatsoever, but rather just accept and reject things based on what evidence I've seen both for and against them.

I like traveling to places, and hope to do a lot of traveling throughout my life. There's just so many places I'd like to see. ^^

So anyway, I hope you enjoy the pics and stories I've made here on dA. ^^
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Arcturus94-j Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2018
Happy birthday, Tarturus!
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. ^^
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Arcturus94-j Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2018

Hello, how is it going?

I have a lot of questions, most of which are about Mayan.

The Maya believed that the Earth was flat, but what shape was it? Was it a rectangle or a circle?

I also read somewhere that the Maya also believed the Earth was on the back of a crocodile, but on another site it is written that this image is wrong, a misinterpretation.

What are the correct 20 Mayan day signs or zodiac signs, or whatever they are called, I looked at certain sites (though I do not know how credible they are), but they each give slightly different versions:

www.elephantjournal.com/2015/1…

www.alabe.com/text/Scofield-20…


Also depending on what day a human was born, and with what animal that day is associated, will determine the form of the humans companion spirit, and what form a human will take on if he/she is a Nagual (although that is from Aztec mythology). So what about the more abstract signs (the ones that have nothing do to with animals)? I have read that companion spirits can come in some fantastic forms, but does that mean the Nagual will also transform into those non-animal forms? Or does that only work if one’s companion spirit, or whatever, is an animal?

Here are 20 day sings where there are just animals (again which one is correct):

www.mayan-jade-jewelry.com/may…


In short how do the whole day sign, companion spirit and nagual thing add up?

Also how many souls did the Maya people believe a human has? Two with one part that is immortal and the companion spirit, or were there even more?

Did the Mayan people believe in a Goddess of Suicide or was she completely made up by colonists?

With the last few questions I just want to know your opinion on some things:

Have you read any of Robert E. Howards Conan the Barbarian stories? If so what is your opinion on them? Likes and dislikes?

I have gotten into the Hellboy comic book series (have read from vol.1 to vol.12, that all focus on Hellboy, and am getting into the B.P.R.D. series), and judging by the Hellboy collection in your favorites, it is safe to assume you are a fan too. What is it you like about the series, anything you dislike, and what is your favorite story in that series (vol. 1 to vol. 12 about Hellboy)?
      

What is your opinion on the dark fantasy genre?

What is your opinion on the Fantasy Kitchen Sink trope, where a setting has almost any mythological creature one can imagine?

Waiting for your reply.
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm doing fairly OK at the moment. ^^

On your Mayan questions I don't actually know all that much about the Mayans (I am somewhat familiar with their history, culture and beliefs but I am far from an expert) so I'm not sure how well I can answer your questions on them.

On the shape of the Earth I'm not sure they actually did think it was flat. Some ancient cultures did think that (e.g. the ancient Hebrews and a number of other ancient Near Eastern cultures believed in a disc world supported on four pillars) but there were also a number of ancient cultures who'd figured out the world was round (e.g. the ancient Greeks- not really one culture but many- knew the Earth was round and the ancient Greek scholar Erastothenes even calculated the Earth's circumference and got a figure only slightly off what we now know it to be). Seafaring cultures seem more prone to figuring out the Earth is round, due to things like seeing ships coming over the horizon (showing they're passing over a curve) and the fact that navigational techniques tend to work a helluva lot better if you take into account the Earth's curvature.
While their civilisation did extend to the Yucatan's coast, the Mayans seem to have been not all that big on seafaring so maybe this could have kept them ignorant on the Earth's shape, and in that case maybe they did believe in a flat Earth. Though as to what shape they'd have thought it was I have no idea.

The whole concept of Mayan zodiac signs sounds like a misnomer. The zodiac and astrology in general are Old World concepts, specifically concepts originating in the Near East and later spreading to Europe and so on. That said, the Mayans did think the universe was constructed in a sacred pattern that could be read in the movements of the stars. So I guess you could call that a form of astrology though it would still be notably different from the old Near Eastern form of astrology most people nowadays would be more familiar with.
Both Mayan zodiac sources you linked seem kinda dubious.

On Mayan beliefs involving souls, apparently they believed that a person shares their soul with an animal companion called the "way' ob". A king's animal companion was a jaguar and other people presumably had other animals. Apparently some priests were thought to be able to have more than one way' ob.

It seems there is indeed an argument that the Mayan suicide goddess, Ix Tab, was made up to justify practices of the Spanish Inquisition in the Mayan's homeland, which resulted in an increase of Mayan suicides. The idea of a suicide goddess has persisted to this day to cover up how the Yucatan has a higher suicide rate than the rest of Mexico and thus deflect attention from the possible social causes of this. Apparently Ix Tab may have originally been a hunting goddess.


On Conan the Barbarian I know of it but I've not read any of Robert E. Howard's books so I don't really have any solid opinion on his writing.

On Hellboy, I guess I like it just cause I like the whole theme of a weird hidden world coexisting with ours. Hellboy lives in the modern world but encounters all these strange mythological and folkloric creatures who all turn out to be real (and of course he just so happens to be a mythological being himself). There's just something intriguing about that whole theme of old mythical and folkloric beings still lurking around in our present day world. As for my favourite story that's a bit of a tricky one. The Conquerer Worm story arc was one that stood out a lot to me.

The dark fantasy genre is a somewhat intriguing genre I reckon.

On the Fantasy Kitchen Sink trope, I reckon if one wants to have as many mythological creatures as they can think of in their setting then go for it. The more the merrier. And there are such a vast number of mythological creatures to choose from that even most Fantasy Kitchen Sink style settings will only ever manage to include but a small portion of all the strange things humanity has come up with throughout the ages.
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Arcturus94-j Featured By Owner Edited Mar 28, 2018

Glad to hear.

Thank you for answering my questions as best as you could. I asked them because of my fantasy world-building project I am still working on. While I picked Mayan and Aztec myths for a basis on which to build my setting, and while I am trying to make it unique and different, I still kind of wanted to at least remain somewhat faithful to some of the elements of the original myths. But seeing as how quite different the setting is still going to be, compared to the originals, so there seems to be no point in remaining super faithful to minor-details anymore. But you still made few things clear so thanks again.
 

While not the greatest fantasy stories ever written, they are still good pulp stories and I personally enjoyed them for what they are. If you ever want to read Conan stories here is where you can read them:

freeread.com.au/@rglibrary/Rob…


What is your opinion on the two live-action Hellboy movies? They were the ones that introduced me to the characters existence, and while ok on their own, but as an adaptation of the comics, they kind of missed the mark in my opinion (changing or removing certain elements, adding things that are not necessary, also a way different tone). I like Conqueror Worm too, but my favorite Hellboy story would have to be vol. 6 Strange Places as we get the creation story of Hellboys version of Earth, the origin of the Ogdru Jahad and their connection to Hellboys right hand of doom (what did you think about that story and its creation myth?).

If you are intrigued by the dark fantasy genre, may I suggest the long running manga series “Berserk” written and illustrated by Kentaro Miura? It has some interesting demon designs, which are not the stereotypical goat-men with bat wings (there is only one that looks like that), and while it is set in a quasi-European, medieval time setting it thankfully does not sugarcoat the nasty parts of the Middle Ages, also it has one badass anti-hero as a main character (but before you start reading it, I have to warn you, this manga is not for the faint of heart, it is quite graphic with its depiction of gore and sexual abuse):

www.mangareader.net/berserk

Waiting for your reply.

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Tarturus Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I quite liked the two Hellboy live action movies, and like with you it was these movies that introduced me to the character's existence. That there were differences from the comics doesn't really bother me too much as I don't really expect films based on novels or comics to exactly mimic the source material.
I actually haven't read the Strange Places story, though from your description it does sound very interesting.
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PaulaEdith Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for the fav! :)
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome. ^^
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Arcturus94-j Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2017
Happy holidays, Tarturus!
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. ^^
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome.
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Newworlds117 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for the faves!
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome.
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NEWATLAS7 Featured By Owner Edited Aug 14, 2017
Thanks for the :+fav:s! :)
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome.
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tashamille Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2017  Professional Interface Designer
Hello) thank you for the favs) wish you all the best! 
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome. And thanks. ^^
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Thanks for the :+fav:s! :)
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome.
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Arcturus94-j Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2017
Happy birthday!
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. ^^
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Flinxerone Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
Haaaaaaaap0py birthday  :) (Smile) 
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Tarturus Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. ^^
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